Andrew: 0:10

ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting, non-stop fantastical, super duper episode of seeking season two, still talking about Wonderfalls. Today we are talking about Episode 5 of Wonderfalls, the first of the non-aired US episodes but aired in Canada. This episode is titled Crime Dog, which right off the bat I want to say I find interesting.

Catherine: 0:43

Yeah.

Andrew: 0:44

Because it's really Crime. Dog is not the primary creature that's talking to.

Catherine: 0:50

No, it's Cow Creamer. It should be called Cow Creamer.

Andrew: 0:53

Cow Creamer, which I guess isn't as exciting as Crime Dog.

Catherine: 0:57

Yeah, but I liked the Crime Dog, I mean McGruff.

Andrew: 1:01

Didn't McGruff get arrested? Did he Look this up? We're going to we're going to start off right off the bat about talking about something completely different the guy that voiced McGruff, the crime dog. I got arrested. I swear to God, he murdered someone or something. It was like something like that. See how see how good my memory is I've seen this as like a meme on on social media.

Catherine: 1:27

McGruff the crime dog actor gets 16 years in prison. See, I told you, John Morales, the actor who played the crime fighting cartoon character McGruff the crime dog, was sentenced to 16 years in prison, stemming from a 2011 arrest in which police seized 1,000 marijuana plants, 27 weapons, including a grenade launcher, and 9,000 rounds of ammunition from his home.

Andrew: 1:54

Boom, amazing. I told you, mcgrath, the Crime Dog, is a criminal.

Catherine: 2:01

Morales insisted during the sentencing hearing that he was nonviolent, but us district judge Vanessa Gilmore said everything I read about you makes you seem like a scary person. He's going to take a bite out of crime. All right, that's right. Just that he liked it.

Andrew: 2:16

Exactly, take a bite out of his crime, my goodness. But yeah, so again, mcgruff the crime dog, a criminal. So that again, mcgrath the crime dog, a criminal. So that's our little quick aside before we dive into this episode. Um, another sode, another sode of wonderfalls. God, they keep using sode.

Catherine: 2:35

Hey, it's, it's, it's a thing, we're gonna make it a thing, I'm just reading through um av club's review of this episode and let me tell you, the person who reviewed this really loved this show.

Andrew: 2:47

Really loved Wonderfalls. Huh, yeah, interesting. So they actually liked this episode. Yeah, wow, yeah, wow, let's dive into it. Yeah, so again episode five titled Crime Dog.

Catherine: 3:03

They call it Subversive subversive and this was written in 2013, wow, yeah wow, subversive.

Andrew: 3:15

I, I disagree, uh, yeah, so our director and I'm going to completely mispronounce his last name, alan Croker, sure, sure. So, interestingly enough, you I don't know that, I mean I'm I'm not familiar with the name, but I am familiar with his work. So his, his biggest stints at directing were 13 episodes Each of star Trek, enterprise9, and Voyager. Huh, so he's done a lot of sci-fi work but done a lot of work in Star Trek. So that I thought was interesting. Again, exactly 13 episodes of each. So I don't know if that's, it's not a season, it's like half a season, I guess. So I don't know, I don't know how they, if they're consecutive or what, but anyway, big Star Trek director, directed this episode of of Wonderfalls. The writer, krista Vernoff, okay, interestingly enough, became, eventually became the showrunner for Grey's Anatomy interesting yes, and then a spinoff.

Andrew: 4:30

There was some spinoff for Grey's Anatomy, which I don't recall the title, but, um, she also became. She eventually became the showrunner for the spinoff of Grey's Anatomy. So that's some of the some of the deets on the episode. Before we dive in, shall we talk about the synopsis of this episode? Yes, yes.

Andrew: 4:54

Okay, yes, so it was a little bit of a confusing episode because they played with the timeline a lot, which is, I know, ever such a clever ploy. But Jay is arrested while trying to cross the Canadian border with her brother, aaron, and their housekeeper, who was deported.

Catherine: 5:21

Who we have never seen before, who has never been alluded to before I know.

Andrew: 5:25

But yet she practically raised them, practically raised these children We've never heard. Most surprisingly, when Darren had the leg injury Right, where was she? Where was she If he loved her, as he said in this episode? He loved her so much, yeah episode he loved her so much.

Andrew: 5:46

Yeah, practically raised her. Practically raised her where was she right. So this is again so sloppy, but we'll get into that. So, anyway, the housekeeper gets deported. Jay and aaron go on a mission to retrieve Yvette, the housekeeper of 20 years. They'd been with them for 20 years. Aaron also is starting to catch on to Jay's secret that she's hearing things and talking back to inanimate objects.

Catherine: 6:26

I feel like he's the only one taking it seriously.

Andrew: 6:29

Well, here's the thing, though. See, this goes back to the whole superficial relationship Jay has with her family. They don't notice. The only time they notice anything about her is when she lands in prison or lands in jail I don't say prison, lands in jail, gets arrested.

Catherine: 6:45

Right.

Andrew: 6:46

That's the only time they show up and like and or show any any amount of concern for her and her wellbeing. So so it was not surprising, and I mean again it starts. It plays into the last episode that we just recorded talking about Aaron and Jay's relationship, how that has apparently gotten much stronger. But he's actually paying attention now and he's like wait a second, what's going on with this? And he brings the creamer around and he's sticking it in her face to see, like what her reaction is, which I thought was very funny. Um, but even though, even though this episode is called crime dog, it's really the, the main, the primary muse is the cow-shaped cream shaped cream dispenser who keeps saying bring her home.

Catherine: 7:47

Yep.

Andrew: 7:48

Very similar to last episode when it was bring her back, bring her back. So we're we're bringing, bringing them back, bringing them home. We're bringing sexy back, whatever.

Catherine: 8:00

We're bringing back my Bonnie to me.

Andrew: 8:01

Yes, exactly, exactly, sure. That was, that was good me. Yes, exactly Exactly, sure, that was good, that was good, deep cut, that was a deep cut. Anyway, let's talk about the main plot. Let's break it down. Break it down. Oh, oh, oh, no, I'm. Let's break it down. Okay, break it down. Oh, won't you take me to a funky town? Anyway, let's break down the main plot. So again, it's messy because they, they, they jerk around with the, the, the timeline, because it's it's the present. Then they go back a couple of days because it starts with her.

Catherine: 8:44

It's like X hours before the arrest and you don't know what they've been arrested for.

Andrew: 8:48

Yeah, it's X hours before the arrest, et cetera. So so they they keep going doing flashbacks and eventually getting back to to the present time. Um, so really, what happens is the main, the main plot is um, so really, what happens is the main plot is that the housekeeper, yvette, who is French-Canadian, or, I guess, claims to be French-Canadian yeah, we'll get to that. Yeah, french-canadian housekeeper of 20 years, interestingly enough. So, before the bring her home, the cow creamer, says eat a pancake.

Andrew: 9:34

Yeah, eat a pancake, have a pancake and she's like what have a pancake.

Catherine: 9:41

What did they keep saying? Yvette was putting in them Figs.

Andrew: 9:44

I don't remember, I don't remember, I was not paying attention, I did not pay attention to that, that detail and I'm looking at. Okay, please do so. So the the muse, the cow, the the cow shaped creamer, um.

Catherine: 10:02

Yeah, figs, figs. There's literally a recipe for Wonderfall's fig pancakes Fascinating yeah so oh my god, are we doing something wrong? Because here's another review site where it says this is a fantastic episode. I don't know do we not care that this character never existed before this episode?

Andrew: 10:30

five episodes in people are willing to look past a lot, a lot, which is sad, so anyway. So People are willing to look past a lot, apparently A lot, which is sad, so anyway. So Sharon and Karen, karen, right yeah, the mother, the mother, sharon.

Catherine: 10:45

Karen, darren and Aaron, exactly, and Jay.

Andrew: 10:49

And Peggy. Yeah, exactly so Sharon and Karen are trying to get Yvette out of the house, right? But the cow creamer keeps insisting on having Jay ask for a pancake Right, which delays Yvette from leaving, right. And then the two immigration agents show up at the door.

Catherine: 11:18

Yeah, it's weird to hear it referred to as INS. It's all about ICE now. It's all about ICE.

Andrew: 11:26

It's strange that 20 years ago, how relevant this kind of the topics that are broached in this episode, how relevant this, this kind of the top, the topics that are broached in this episode, how relevant they are to to today, Because it was, it was already. It's already alluded to in previous episodes that Sharon is an immigration attorney, Right, and the the immigration agents show up, arrest, they have a warrant. So again, make sure that's a judicial warrant if ICE agents show up. So they have a warrant and they take into custody Yvette and bring her home. So again, I'm not really spoiling anything, but remember we discover later that Yvette's name is not even Yvette, it's Cindy.

Catherine: 12:33

Right, and she is not French-Canadian.

Andrew: 12:36

And she is not French and she is not French Canadian, so she's just regular Canadian. So I how? So my question is how do they get, how do they get a warrant for Yvette If she's not Yvette? Like wouldn't they know that her name is actually Cindy?

Catherine: 12:53

right.

Andrew: 12:54

Like how would they get, how would they get a warrant for Yvette If she's not even like it's sloppy writing? I know why am I silly me asking questions silly you expecting things to make sense right, exactly so. Anyway, immigration agents take her away. Darren is very upset, right. And then this is when Jay and Aaron start conspiring to Because they're best friends, because they are besties, they are bestie besties.

Catherine: 13:33

Besties for the restie.

Andrew: 13:34

That's right. So they plot and scheme to go rescue Yvette. Yeah, so that's that's kind of what happens in the meantime. It keeps cutting to. It keeps cutting to scenes of Sharon being being questioned or hurt. She's telling her story to somebody like I don't. I don't understand what that even is. She's sitting there smoking cigarettes telling her story, telling this whole story to somebody who I I don't know who this person is Like. I don't even know how that fits into the story.

Catherine: 14:16

Yeah.

Andrew: 14:17

Because then it also cuts to scenes of Sharon behind the, behind the mirror glass, talking with with the agents who are also questioning Jay after she's been arrested. It's, yeah, it's really, it's really weird, but anyway, it's really weird. But anyway, the whole thing is Jay and Aaron drive up to Canada, drive over the border into Canada and it's not what it's called, no, it is the 51st state um, so they drive up to canada, they drive to the bus station where event apparently has, where the deportation bus just drops them off at a bus station and you get off with your luggage, get out with your luggage, and you're, you're back in canada, um, so it's all very strange.

Andrew: 15:22

So they, they, they locate yvette, they. Then what happens? So then they're, they're trying to get her back to um, get her back to America, get her back to the US, to her family, to Jayden Aaron's family. And as they're driving, all of a sudden it's the cow creamer going right on red, right on red and shouting right on red. And then, finally, jay looks up and sees there's a red light and cuts a hard right, turn right down a one-way street, going the wrong direction yeah so she's dodging cars back and forth just typical sitcom.

Andrew: 16:07

Everybody's screaming and oh, we're driving down the road exactly, um, that, that, that old trope, yeah. So, oh ah, people jumping out of the way, cars swerving, nobody hitting another car, none of that, just Jay finally making it down the street and then suddenly Jay swerves, runs up on someone's front lawn and we discover that it ends up being Yvette's parents yes, of all the homes in all of Canada, which is a notoriously tiny country yes.

Andrew: 16:40

Jesus. Well, the muses know all this, so that's why they are privy to information Unbeknownst to us, but knownst to them. But knownst to the muses is this information and so they work out everything.

Andrew: 16:59

so we then we quickly discover that yvette does, does not have a french accent anymore, that that disappears, yep, and they're referring to her as what I say, cindy, cindy, cindy, but Cindy. Apparently their housekeeper is Yvette, with a French accent. So that's where Cindy got this whole persona is from her own housekeeper, yvette. And then through all the conversations we discover that Yvette was the only one that really raised her. It really raised Cindy because her parents were never there. So now that just makes me think of Pete Davidson and Smoke Cheddar, the ass gunner. You were never there for me, mom. You were never there for me, mom. That's like what pops into my head is now those two singing about how his mom was never there for him. So don't mind me, that's how my brain works. So, anyway, there's a confrontation. Jay decks Cindy's father, yeah, yeah, which again.

Catherine: 18:23

I talked about this in the last episode. Now she and lee pace, aka aaron, are super best friends, to the point where she's like don't mess with my family. Really right where. And she even says, like I had no idea that this like loyalty was there, but like it's because the father doesn't, he hit aaron and then she decks the father and, come on, we've seen none of this loyalty. Like she's going into the house with her laundry every day now, right, what is?

Catherine: 18:53

happening again for the maid that we've never seen before to do the laundry right, exactly.

Andrew: 18:59

And then, and then, the father at the end of the episode talks about cause. She was like thank you for giving up your principles Like yeah. Sacrificing your principles to save me. And he's like family always comes first. Like, suddenly, the mob, like the Republican mob, like take the gun, leave the canoes. What the hell? Speaking of which, what are the? Did you, did you catch, when they were doing the review of all the uh, civics questions? And they, they, they asked, they, asked you that slash, cindy. What are, what are the two parties?

Catherine: 19:36

Yeah.

Andrew: 19:37

Where the two political parties and she goes the Republicans and the gop and he goes.

Catherine: 19:45

That's right, I did not catch that.

Andrew: 19:45

Oh my god they're all like dad, he's like well, she got it right. I thought.

Catherine: 19:52

I just thought that was funny I thought that was very funny well, because we've talked before about the fact that we knew that they would be republicans.

Andrew: 19:58

Oh yes, oh yeah, so he, he pulled some strings, obviously too. So that was the whole thing. So at the end he pulls all the strings to and because the immigration attorney, sharon, doesn't really do anything. Yeah, it was the father that went and played a round of golf with one of his political friends and got Jay released and then got Yvette slash Cindy released so that she could actually go and get her citizenship, take the test and actually pass it.

Catherine: 20:37

And I mean, I think it's heavily implied that the reason she never passed the test was that she never took the test because she was living under an assumed name. No, because no remember, because they said she kept failing it, but I don't know.

Andrew: 20:51

The mother confessed. The mother confessed that she was. She needed her around the house.

Catherine: 20:58

Oh, so she didn't let her.

Andrew: 21:00

Sharon said she's like we were too like we needed her around the house, we couldn't't let her. Sharon said she's like we were too like we needed her around the house, we couldn't let her go take the test. I don't remember that. Oh, there was a whole thing. Can I yeah time out? Yeah, yeah, so she never. The mother sharon never took her to the citizens citizenship class because, um, there was too much to do around the house, which again, oh my god, rich white people like you can't do anything like on your own, like jesus, rich white people.

Catherine: 21:34

But again it's just the sloppy, sloppy. She couldn't let her out of the house. We've never seen her before. She's never exactly, and I guarantee you we never see her again, right.

Andrew: 21:51

Because this is. I guess there was technically three episodes filmed before this one, I don't know. I don't know in what order they filmed them all. Anyway, four episodes before this which we've never seen her and we'll probably never see her again. That's the whole funny thing. That's what I just said I can guarantee you'll never see her in another episode.

Catherine: 22:11

What was this writer's room? Oh, you know what would be fun. Let's do a deportation story about their maid. They don't have a maid, they do now.

Andrew: 22:18

Jesus Christ, it's awful, it's just shoddy shoddy craftsmanship, um, so anyway. So that that's really the whole main plot is just this whole get her back to. Well, so I, I, I got, I got diverted. So so the realization is that Yvette slash, cindy reconnects, not reconnects with her parents, but sees her parents again and realizes that she doesn't want to be there.

Catherine: 22:52

Yeah, like she said, that over the last 20 years she wondered if she had made a mistake in leaving, made a mistake right in leaving. But now that she sees that her parents haven't changed at all, she realizes she did the right thing. Because, even though I still don't feel that the writing has given this family maybe the father at this point, but the mother any kind of redeeming qualities, she still got more affection and more of what she needed from being with their family right than her own.

Andrew: 23:20

Right. So that's the bring her home. It's not the bring her home to America.

Catherine: 23:25

No, it's the bring her home to what she views as her family, her childhood home Right and her family, and then bring her back to her family, which is Jay's family, right, but we'll never see her again. And also, I could talk about this in the things that doesn't. That didn't work for me. Why does she go back to the French accent when they know she's not French Canadian?

Andrew: 23:47

They go to call her Cindy Right.

Catherine: 23:49

They call her Cindy, but she still has the fucking French accent. And I work with a number of French Canadians. They do not sound like Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast.

Andrew: 24:00

I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

Catherine: 24:02

would you do like the pancake?

Andrew: 24:04

right, come on, it's just it's bad. So so, what's, what's really the? Are there any subplots? I mean, I guess I guess it's the sharon, yeah, subplot ish like relationship, because in the end it's almost like they. I say reconcile, end, it's almost like they. I say reconcile because it's not like that. But they were kind of having this, this combative relationship in the whole episode. Because she calls her the. What's the? What does Jay call her? Jay calls her the. I don the. Um, I don't know what you do. I don't know, I don't know scrap that hold on, I'm looking squealer jay calls her the squealer she's like you squealing, squealer.

Andrew: 24:57

She's like why are you calling me that? Because you squealed? That's what I was trying to get at. So so they have a contentious relationship in the episode, but they kind of reconcile in the end and and come back again because it all, it's all about family. Right again, this is sopranos. Uh, I, I don't know. Or is it the fast and the furious? I don't, I don't know, or is it the Fast and the Furious? I?

Catherine: 25:22

don't know.

Andrew: 25:24

Or is it Olive Garden when you hear your family? I don't know.

Catherine: 25:27

I don't know what's going on in this episode no she's French, canadian, not Italian, so it's not Olive Garden Is.

Andrew: 25:34

Olive Garden really Italian though.

Catherine: 25:35

No, no, it is not.

Andrew: 25:39

Exactly that's my point. Yes.

Catherine: 25:44

No, it is not. Yeah, exactly, that's my point. Yes, I'm just trying to think if there's anything else About subplot.

Andrew: 25:51

Yeah, I mean that was oh well. I mean well, the other subplot is really Aaron trying to suss out.

Catherine: 25:59

Yeah, what's going on with Jay?

Andrew: 26:00

What's going on with Jay? What's going on with jay?

Catherine: 26:01

which did pull out one of my favorite lines, but also so inappropriate. Yes is your. You parade your trailer park hill. No, you wear your trailer park hillbilly lifestyle around your neck like a clove of garlic. Wow, trying to ward off the family, wow there's there's some interesting lines in this episode.

Andrew: 26:23

We'll get to that, so let's talk about that next. Do you have three favorite moments?

Catherine: 26:29

Yes.

Andrew: 26:29

Okay, hit me.

Catherine: 26:33

When Jay is walking into the house and she thinks the flamingos are talking to her but it's actually the gardener next door.

Andrew: 26:43

That was good.

Catherine: 26:43

That was really funny. I thought that was very, very clever Sorry.

Andrew: 26:46

I'm PMSing. That was her and he goes.

Catherine: 26:50

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, so I liked that. That was good. I liked, um I think it was Aaron's reference to the cocaine cows yes, was aaron's reference to the cocaine cows? Yes, the smuggling cocaine and the cow creamers, yes, so I liked that. That was good. Um, and then my, my absolute favorite was that the like knockoff version of mcgruff the crime dog was painted as like a 1920s film noir cop hey doll.

Andrew: 27:17

That was so funny to me let me just say this, since this will be one of my things that did not. Well, it's not that it did or did not work, but here was the weird thing yeah the crime dog was the first one to actually have a basically have a conversation right with jay yeah, instead of just saying something to her instead of just repeating the same line.

Andrew: 27:36

I actually had a conversation with jay yeah, again, which think. Is that sloppy writing or was that a specific choice? Yeah, I don't know, but it was weird because I noticed that I'm like, wait a second, this dog's actually talking to her. Was this the?

Catherine: 27:51

first episode where you had multiple muses talking to her and not like the singing in the last one or whatever, like multiple ones leading her to where she needed to. No, it's not, because in the first episode you had the Eagle on the quarter and you had the wax lion.

Andrew: 28:10

Right.

Catherine: 28:11

And I think the monkey in the with the barrel was in the end of that one too.

Andrew: 28:15

So okay nevermind. Yep. No, they've definitely had multiple muses talking to her in the in the same episode.

Catherine: 28:22

Hey, doll just tickled me, that was so funny to me, I'm like and what else was?

Andrew: 28:29

was that those are three. Those are your three.

Catherine: 28:30

That was the flamingos, the cocaine cows and the crime dog.

Andrew: 28:34

So I, I only had two, okay, so I just so, I just cause I I love.

Catherine: 28:42

I love Queer Eye, yeah, but I hated that line, I hated the line, but I love. Queer.

Andrew: 28:45

Eye when he, when he's like strange men came into our house like those homosexuals do who do makeovers, like really is that? Is that like how we're it's?

Catherine: 28:53

very early 2000s.

Andrew: 28:55

Very early it was. It was just it's like I get the like, I get the meaning, yeah. Just it's like I, I get the like, I get the meaning, yeah like the meaning I thought was funny, the just the.

Catherine: 29:04

The delivery was not, and you know it's funny because I think it's partially. They probably didn't have the rights to say queer eye, right we've been talking about they probably couldn't even say queer, like we've been. We've been skirting around something similar at work because one of our products was featured on a very popular show recently and we've been trying to figure out how to potentially use that in organic social without getting sued by a company that is run by a very large mouse.

Catherine: 29:29

Um, so I'll tell you about it when we're done. Interesting, yeah okay but I think it's probably something similar to that where they didn't have the rights to talk about queer eye for the straight guy Right, Because I think you you probably could have said the show title Right At that point. Right, I would think so but I'm going to guess they didn't have the money to actually reference the show title Right, perhaps, maybe.

Andrew: 29:54

So my other, my other, my other favorite moment was I thought this was so funny. Yeah, when I'm trying to think of where she was storming out of Jay I don't know if it was the barrel, the restaurant, the bar or what but Sharon is standing right by the door and Jay is like bolting out because the cow just told her to do something. Yeah, and she goes, stupid cow.

Catherine: 30:22

Oh, that's, right, yes.

Andrew: 30:23

And Sharon goes selfish bitch yes.

Catherine: 30:27

Yeah, that was funny.

Andrew: 30:30

I thought that was a great. Just little line. Yeah, that I thought was good. All right, let's hit. We've already hit a ton of it. Is there anything else that worked or didn't work in in this episode?

Catherine: 30:44

okay, so you know how. In the last one I said why is this priest such a dick? Yeah my note on this one is why is this cop such a bitch, right? What was that? Yeah, she didn't kill someone, I know, although I think they were trying to make it seem in the beginning like she did kill someone, right. But the cop comes in and just tears her a new one, right. And I'm like. I was like are we doing good cop, bad cop, because there's no other cop here? Right, they're just doing bad cop.

Catherine: 31:13

Yeah, we're just doing bad cop, just bad cop, bad cop. I just thought it was overwritten, overacted for the cop, like what the hell?

Andrew: 31:21

Exactly so okay. So the one thing that didn't work for me, which I thought was just really, you know what I'm going to say.

Catherine: 31:31

I know what you're going to say. Yeah.

Andrew: 31:34

She's like those are lesbian hands. Yeah, those are lesbian fingers, the short nails, the short cuticles and the short nails, the short cuticles and the short nails.

Catherine: 31:41

She goes no, the short cuticle, it was the short nails and the like, immaculate cuticles or something like the nail bed.

Andrew: 31:47

Something about like you know why.

Catherine: 31:49

You know why lesbians have short fingernails and then it cuts away like it's a joke I'm like what the fuck?

Andrew: 31:56

that was just like so tasteless.

Catherine: 31:58

I was just like I'm like really I'm like oh, were you afraid we forgot that Sharon's a lesbian and you're not okay with it?

Andrew: 32:05

Oh my God Like oh my.

Catherine: 32:07

God, yeah, it was just, it was just. But again it's one of those early two thousands things Right when it was okay back then. I mean it shouldn't have been no it was not okay, it was accepted yeah, yeah, yeah so.

Andrew: 32:27

So there's that, um, but, like other things that I'm trying to, there's anything, anything else that we haven't already discussed. That didn't work. Um, it's not a piece of trivia, but what, what I thought, what I? It was so funny because the father, cindy's father I don't know if you remember he was one of the, he was one of the guys Um. Cindy's father was um one of the factory owners in um Tommy boy.

Catherine: 33:09

Oh, I didn't. Oh, now that you say it, yeah.

Andrew: 33:12

When he was like clock that at the time when um cause Tommy's like if I stuck my head up a bull's ass. That's what Spade goes chicken wings, chicken wings, and he's like he's like what was it crazy little snooze, crazy little goose sniffer.

Andrew: 33:36

This is the fairy. Yeah, well, we're not buying it. Next thing, you know, there's money missing off the dresser and your daughter's knocked up. I've seen it a hundred times. He's like what, but anyway. So yeah, the father was from. I've seen him in in Tommy Boy, he's been in a bunch of other things, but I think he does a lot of voiceover work too.

Andrew: 34:01

But yeah, there's just a lot that didn't work in this episode Again a housekeeper that never existed before, that's supposedly such a close member of the family for the last 20 years, who I assume is supposed to live with them.

Catherine: 34:19

Yeah, and we've never seen her before.

Andrew: 34:23

I don't know. I don't know if she lived with them or not. Cause remember this is just a random thing that I remember Cause remember she writes a birthday card for the father and includes her key, which doesn't mean that she doesn't live there no, because she had a key to the house. I know you have to have a key to the house. But if you live there but I don't know either way though, like if she, yeah, came in in the morning like let herself in, maybe I don't know.

Catherine: 34:45

Either way, sloppy writing yes.

Andrew: 34:49

so all that, all that aside, let's talk about some behind-the-scenes trivia and fun facts. Okie, dokie, do, do, do, do.

Catherine: 34:59

Oh, is that our behind-the-scenes music? I'll come up with something Fun facts, fun facts.

Andrew: 35:07

So, jay, apparently this is stuff I think I pulled this off of IMDB. Jay drives a 1966 Studebakeraker. Yeah, I kind of love that car, which apparently was the last year that car was built um, and I I don't know if I mentioned this before, but I think I think I mentioned this before we started recording. So trailers for this episode actually did air in the us. They they were broadcast by Fox.

Catherine: 35:36

And then they just never aired the episode.

Andrew: 35:38

And then the series was canceled before the episode actually aired. Rude, right, I mean talk about a weird time to make a decision, right? But yeah, so they aired trailers for this episode, advertised it but then never aired it. When Jay and Aaron go to Canada to find yvette cindy cindy, they go.

Andrew: 36:02

They go to the bus station cvet. Exactly. Indy, indy, indy, there we go. That's the dog's name. Exactly so. Apparently it's the concourse of the Skydome, which is now Rogers Stadium or something, or Rogers whatever. But yeah, apparently it's the concourse of the Skydome in Toronto. That's what they chose to make a bus station.

Catherine: 36:31

All right then.

Andrew: 36:32

Yeah, so those were some of the little interesting tidbits, of fun facts fun facts, fun facts, exactly. So again another sloppy troublesome episode fun facts.

Catherine: 36:50

Fun facts we taught you how to freebase crack oh oh.

Andrew: 36:55

We didn't teach him how to. We taught him what freebasing was. It's not like we gave him step-by-step instructions. I mean, we could do that on the next episode. That's what YouTube is for. Say no to drugs kids.

Catherine: 37:12

So anyway any.

Andrew: 37:13

Chubby. That is one chubby cat. That's our Mulder, right buddy. Yeah, anyway, any parting. Other thoughts on Crime Dog. Crime Dog, not Crime Dog, yeah, cow-shaped.

Catherine: 37:30

Yeah, cow creamer, yeah, oh yes. We didn't talk about the fact that at the end of the episode, yeah, cow creamer, yeah, oh yes. We didn't talk about the fact that at the end of the episode, it is revealed that Aaron broke the head off the cow creamer. That's right.

Andrew: 37:44

So Is that so it won't talk to Jay anymore?

Catherine: 37:46

I think so. Yes, so there was a text chain between myself and Andrew earlier, and my last series of texts to you was the writing is just so inconsistent. Suddenly, lee Pace is a main character after barely being in the first three episodes, and he and Jay are super tight and they both hate Sharon and they had a housekeeper who practically raised them. And then the last text is Aaron killed the cow creamer. That's right, yeah, so I think it's so that it will stop talking. So that's why I'm like he believes her Right, or he at least believes that she believes something's happening. Right, right, right. He's going to behead those flamingos if he finds out. Right, oh my God, what's going to?

Andrew: 38:34

behead those flamingos if he finds out Right. Oh my god, what's going to happen to the wax lion?

Catherine: 38:38

Is he going to put that in a frying pan and tell Yvette to make it into a?

Andrew: 38:41

pancake With figs Figs.

Catherine: 38:47

Just keep them in newtons, alright. Grind you up and put you in a cookie If I thought it would move product.

Andrew: 38:52

Love you, gary Goldman Goleman.

Catherine: 38:55

It's always a Gary Goleman reference.

Andrew: 38:57

And, on that note, thank you everyone for listening to another fun-filled, filled with fun facts, fun facts, fun facts. Please don't smoke crack, that's right. Thank you again. We will catch you next time on Seeking Season 2. Bye, bye, bye.